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New York Arkie Meeting

Way to go Frank, you making a fine example that we as hobbyist are trying to work with those that accuse us as the looters so that we may learn as they will learn from us also. You have shown them we too have just as much interest in our heritage and it protection as they do. Great going my friend. Keith Wills

----- Original Message -----
From: Frank Pandozzi
To: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 10:28 PM
Subject: New York Arkie Meeting


Hi Keith, if you wanna send this out to everyone please do. I know some of them were interested in what was going on here in NY.
Thanks
Frank

This is Frank Pandozzi, New York State WWATS Director. Most of you know that the archaeologists in the Central NY area were upset that I produced a TV show about metal detecting.  The local NYS Archaeological chapter wanted to shut down my TV show. They went as far as libeling me in their newsletter as well as breaking the copyright laws by telling their members to tape my show without my permission and to share it with other members outside the viewing area, with the intention of discussing me at their next meeting. Well that meeting was Monday evening, and myself and John Decharo, my sidekick in my TV show, were there to listen to what they had to say. If they were going to try and stop my TV show, or if they were going to badmouth us, we figured we should have the right to listen in.

I gotta tell you! By the end of the evening, even though we were a “couple of looters” in their eyes, that’s what one Arkie kept calling us, we were best of friends. We even broke bread together, we ate their stale donuts and drank their strong coffee as we discussed how we would work together in the future. I offered my film crew services to them, and they will be taking us on their digs. They want us to learn how to stratify, categorize, grid, map, and flag an area. I said no problem, I’m willing to learn. So for the moment, it seems that the situation about my show, or any new laws being enacted in NY has mellowed. I will keep everyone posted about this issue.

Frank

Activities from another WWATS state director....

  

This is just great and exactly what all of this hobby should of been doing all along. You and your friend are a fine example of working together with government agencies so to co-exist in both our hobbies and the goals of preserving our heritage and it's knowledge it gives us for future generations to learn from. Thanks so much for your fine work there, please keep it up. We need many more like you!
Sincerely, Keith Wills, president

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Long
To: Keith Wills
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 8:06 AM
Subject: Another example....


A friend of mine, and myself have been doing some Civil War research on the NCRR here in Baltimore County, Md. Through research, we believe we have located one of the guard camps that has never been searched. We found out that the owner of the property is a church. I requested permission, and at that time they informed me that the Maryland Historical Trust had shown an interest a few years back. To cut a long story short, a joint effort by the MARS club, ASM, MHT and Towson Presbyterian is underway to find this camp. Here is some of the correspondence between myself, and the Maryland Terrestrial Archaeologist:

Hi Mike -
Thanks for the heads up -I haven't heard about this walkthrough.  
I've been trying to get Stephen Israel to be the point-person on this project, and I suspect that he has set this up.  While I don't really know what Stephen is planning, I can tell you what I think he's probably up to.  
I'm pushing for a joint field effort between volunteers from the Archeological Society of Maryland and your Maryland Artifact Recovery Society at the Bee Tree property, hopefully this April (to coincide with our annual Maryland Archeology Month) - I was planning to write to you about this hopeful schedule today, so your inquiry is timely.  My personal preference would be to schedule two Sunday's in April for the field work (I have offered my April "Sunday Survey" opportunities to the public for two years in a row now, and would like to continue the practice - but I'm open to alternatives!).

Stephen wants to see the property before he commits to the project - he has a copy of your research, by the way.  I think what Stephen wants to do is reassure himself that this piece of property has the potential to be what you think it is.  He also wants to look at it from a logistical perspective:  can this property be investigated?  Where will folks park?  Is vegetation a problem?  How will we set up the project?  Etcetera!
What I have in mind is a "controlled" metal detector survey.  By "controlled" I mean that the operators would sweep transects or lanes that have been laid out with a surveyors transit (ASM volunteers would do this work in advance of the MARS volunteers arrival at the site - although if your members want to participate that would be fine).  Hits along the lanes would be excavated (methods to be determined in consultation with MARS), and an ASM volunteer would record the work (location, methods, results).  The treatment of artifacts encountered would be worked out with the landowners, and with MARS/ASM, beforehand;  ideally I'd like to see all finds photographed and identified on-site (the high likelihood is that your members will be the experts for identification, so immediate on-site ID is desirable), then bagged and tagged.  Items would then be transported to a laboratory for cleaning, further analysis, cataloging, and - if necessary - conservation.  Ultimately I'd like to see the project result in a report and a public display.

That's what I'm thinking.  Thanks again for your note, and for your interest in this property/project.
Sincerely,
Charlie

After showing a concern that I wanted to be involved in all aspects of the dig:

Mike -
Please be assured that you will be personally involved in all stages of this project;  both because it is the right thing to do, and because the project won't work without you and your group fully engaged and involved!
I'm happy (and not surprised) that you are familiar with the controlled survey process.  Many of our volunteers are not as familiar with it as they need to be, and most have little experience with transits and other surveyors instruments, so education to our archeological volunteers is a principal part of the benefit of this project as Stephen and I see it.  That you also see education for yourself and your group members as an important aspect of this project is gratifying to me.   I think this project is the definition of a win-win;  and if we actually find a Civil War encampment, that will be icing on the cake!
I'm going to try and arrange to be out there this Friday also, so hopefully we'll meet then.
Charlie

Just goes to show you, that not all archaeologist think that we are "graverobbers" and "looters". We have skills that are beneficial to them, and they have the knowledge that can be beneficial to us!!!! This is hopefully the beginning of a long relationship between the archies and detectorists here in Maryland.
Mike
PS-You can forward this if you want Keith

A report from England, praising American Detectorists

    

Attached you will read a report sent by a friend in England of Carolyn Garrett, Chairperson, American Metal Detecting Association. In this report from England you will see the praise their government gives the American detectorist that visits their country and helps them locate unknown sites. If the detectorist does find a valuable item and England's government wishes to keep it, then England will pay that detectorist a "fair market value" of that item to do so. Of course, this is something we may never see from our government here in America. However, it is important that such documation as this is kept so to prove to our government and archaeologists that consider our hobby looting, that in fact we are anything but and other countries agree with us as being a great benefit to their country. Just think of the many thousands of new sites discovered that could be shared with the American people and educate us all about our past cultures if only archaeologists and government agencies of America could make a grownup decision as we see here made by England. Co-existance is always better than feuding! Keith Wills, president

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MORRISON: Is There a Bigger Picture down the Marked Path?

  

MORRISON: Is There a Bigger Picture down the Marked Path?

Wednesday, February 16, 2005

By Joyce Morrison (This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. )

OPINION - My 16-year old cat seemingly went blind over night. One day she had the freedom to run every where she wanted and she saw the whole house clearly. Now she marks a path and follows her trail to her food, litter and to the little stool in front of a heat vent where she feels protected and secure. Her freedom is now severely limited.

The vet said "it couldn't happen that she would go blind so suddenly." But it did happen.

This reminds me of America. The Founding Fathers saw the "whole picture" but now over 200 years later, we appear to be blind as we travel down a marked path, but the marks are not ours.

We no longer have the ability to see but find it much easier to follow this marked path believing it will take us to an area protected and secure.

Our Founding Fathers knew the importance of being a sovereign nation. They fought to become a nation united without outside interference. We now invite the treaties of foreign nations to take control of every area of our lives in America and we, at the local level, are inviting it to happen.

Education in the United States follows the trail made by the United Nations Education, Science and Cultural Organization commonly known as UNESCO.

Zoning and planning are no longer local decisions. They have been turned over to visioning counsels using Sustainable Development, Smart Growth and land use programs from Agenda 21. These are plans that come from an international agreement signed in 1992 at the Earth Summit held in Rio de Janeiro.

With Agenda 21 and sustainability, we have programs such as rewilding, wilderness and scenic, Heritage as well as many other land control programs....all with the marks of a global trail.

If you sit on a comprehensive planning commission or almost any public board or council, you are most likely working with a Global International Treaty. A "change agent" will be sent to convince you changes must be made...and a grant will help make these changes.

Wetlands legislation originates from a treaty signed in Ramsar, Iran. As states adopt wetlands legislation, local landowners who do not comply with these global dictates will suffer severe penalties in the way of fines and possible incarceration.

Our environmental programs are influenced by the IUCN which is the World Conservation Union.

One of the leading partnering organizations in the environmental movement is the Green Cross International headed by Mikhail Gorbechev. The mission of the Green Cross is to "help ensure a just, sustainable and secure future for all by fostering a value shift and cultivating a new sense of global interdependence (emphasis mine) and shared responsibility in humanity's relationship with nature." The Gorbechev Foundation is located in Boston, Massachusetts.

Green Cross promotes "legal, ethical and behavioral norms that ensure basic changes in the values, actions and attitudes of government, the private sector and civil society, necessary to build a sustainable global community."

Many of our most influential leaders in America are Rhodes Scholars. Cecil Rhodes headed the billion dollar DeBeer diamond industry in South Africa. Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe) was named after Rhodes.

Rhodes promoted one world government and left a legacy that carries on through Oxford University providing scholarships for select young men who would be influential in government.

This should explain some of the strange and liberal ideology of those we believe to be some of our most intellectual and influential leaders.

Junk science and questionable data are used to say we are over populating the carrying capacity of the planet...even though no one knows just what that capacity is.

In the meantime, we advocate abortion, homosexuality and in some countries euthanasia is already quietly on the scene. All of these are ways to reduce population. Prince Phillip has been quoted as saying "If I were reincarnated, I would wish to be returned to Earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels."

Other quotes that might be of interest in the big picture:

"Christianity is our foe. If animal rights is to succeed, we must destroy the Judeo-Christian Religious tradition."

  • Peter Singer, the "Father of Animal Rights"

    Global Sustainability requires: "the deliberate quest of poverty ... reduced resource consumption ... and set levels of mortality control."

  • Professor Maurice King

    "Human beings, as a species, have no more value than slugs."

  • John Davis, editor of Earth First Journal

    "We've got to ride the global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing -- in terms of economic policy and environmental policy."

  • Timothy Wirth, former U.S. Senator (D-Colorado)

    "We must make this an insecure and inhospitable place for capitalists and their projects ... We must reclaim the roads and plowed land, halt dam construction, tear down existing dams, free shackled rivers and return to wilderness millions of tens of millions of acres of presently settled land."

  • David Foreman, Earth First!

    "... The collective needs of non-human species must take precedence over the needs and desires of humans."

  • Dr. Reed F. Noss, The Wildlands Project

    "In order to stabilize world population, we must eliminate 350,000 per day."

  • Dr. Jacques Cousteau

    "We reject the idea of private property."

  • Peter Berle, President of the National Audubon Society
  • I've touched on only a small segment of what could be called "The Bigger Picture." Can you think of more marks found on the Global trail?

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    Joyce Morrison lives in southern Illinois. She is a chapter leader for Concerned Women for America and she and her husband, Gary, represent the local Citizens for Private Property Rights. Joyce is Secretary to the Board of Directors of Rural Restoration/ADOPT Mission, a national farm ministry located in Sikeston.

    She has become a nationally-recognized advocate for property rights.

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